H!P in America, and other ranting.
A lot of people have been talking about H!P and the American market: If it'd be possible, other Japanese artists who have tried, and if it'd work.
I honestly don't know much of anything about the stuff that goes one behind the scenes of the music industry. A lot of people say things like "That PV was so cheap, they don't have enough money to do anything or have proper sets." I don't really understand that kind of thing. If a PV looks good, who cares how much it costed to make it? I'm sure there could be really expensive PVs that look horrible.
And people who talk about the decline of Morning Musume. *shrugs* Morning Musume is changing, it does alot. The current MM we know today is nothing like what it was back in the "Golden Age". But how could it be the same? All of those girls have grown up. I think we need to also. Accept the changes. The music style is different. But who says we can't like both styles? I like the old stuff, but also enjoy the newer things.
Anyways! H!P in America. A lot of people have been discussing how it would happen/if it'd work and be successful. A more interesting and fun thing to talk about is what you'd do if they did come to America. Assume that they're maybe not as big as they are in Japan, but close to it. Things I'd do differently then I do now.
- Go to concerts! I'm only 16 and there's no way I can fly to Japan to go to one. But I could manage driving a few hours to go to a few.
- Going into a store and buying a CD. I get all my CDs through YesAsia. How nice would it be to get the CD without all the wait and shipping?
- Join H!P. Hey, it's possible! I'm around the age and am not horrible looking or a bad singer/dancer. Isn't that was all female fans want at least a tiny bit? Hey, I'd drop out of high school to spend my time making money while hanging with Sayumi and Tanaka or even Risako and Miyabi.
- English H!P Imagine the possibilities: American exchange students in Berryz or C-ute, English groups that rival the main groups (as opposed to Coconuts Musume which was full of fail), and English covers of songs. I like H!P because of the cuteness and uniqueness that I don't see in American artists.
- Fanclub activities. Isn't there a fanclub you can join in Japan? I'd join that in a heartbeat if it wasn't for the fact that I don't live in Japan. I can imagine there'd be handshake events and special V!P performances you can win.
- Fans in real life. I haven't met anybody in real life who's a H!P fan, or even knows who they are. Only people on the internet. But if H!P was in American I'm sure I wouldn't have trouble gathering a few friends for some karaoke parties or something like that.
- Younger fans. I can see a different fan market for H!P- younger girls! Japan is different from America and I don't think it'd be very accepted for 35-year-old men going to concerts and hanging 16-year-old girls pictures on their wall.
But I know there's also things I like about being a fan of a Japanese artist that would be taken away if they came to America.
- It motivates me to learn a language. I can honestly say I've learned most of the Japanese I know from H!P songs. And that's not entirely a horrible thing! Singing helps greatly with pronunciation. Having a debut in America would make them start to produce songs in English with English writing on the covers and translations.
- Unique. This is sort of a double edges sword. It'd be nice to know other H!P fans, but it's also pretty cool to say "My favorite artist? Morning Musume of course. Oh, they're Japanese. Yes I can sing Japanese. *rattles off Shabondama monologue*" I'd wouldn't feel unique to say that I was a fan of H!P when there are billions of others who are too.
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And 35-year-old men going to H!P concerts isn't something really accepted in Japanese society. More like tolerated, just like otaku.
I never really said the quality of music is declining.
I mean that some of the H!P fans I talk to always complain about how H!P hasn't come out with something as good as [insert old song] in forever. That they like the older music better then the new stuff.
And how many copies are sold... A lot has changed since the "Golden Age" and not just the girls or the music. Right now getting the new Mikan single is as easy as signing up for free at a website and dowloading it. Why buy it when you can get it free? I try and buy as much as I can, but I know that 98% of the H!P music on my computer wasn't bought. Though I agree that even if you couldn't possibly get any singles for free online the Golden Age would still sell more. But who knows by how much?
Haha, give a girl a break! The word accepted vs. the word tolerated. xD I never meant that it was an accepted. What I meant was like what you said, it's tolerated.
Also, if there's any group of people less likely to download most of their collection, it would be the elderly and the wotas/otaku. The Collection is a fanatic's life. I'm sure that if a wota isn't spending all his money in singles, instead downloading them for free, he is using it to buy photobooks and attend concerts, so in the end it all goes to UFA. If you look at it like this, it's easy to predict that H!P can aim for wotas and stay around for a long time, even if they never sell so much as to get mainstream like the Golden Age again.
I like your younger fans idea. In fact, that's a market UFA is going for since MiniMoni, and trying to maintain with all the present anime units. Most bloggers I've read just say they are aiming for otakus though...
*Concerts, yes it'll be easier for fans to go to concerts for those who live in the states because they'll be doing it at closer arenas that are big. For me, those would be in San Francisco, San Jose or Oakland. A few hours of car ride, that's not as bad as a LONG plane ride to Japan.
*A store to buy their CDs. For me, in my city there's a Japantown, but their CD store doesn't have all the CDs I want. I've been looking for the Kanashimi Twilight single for a long time and they didn't have it at all. Yet they had the All Single's Complete... And way-overpriced from what you can order on Yes-Asia. A single from that store, costs 21 dollars without tax for a Limited Edition and on Yes-Asia it's 17. Plus, Yes-Asia gives free shipping. =D (Although, I do cheat and go to my Chinatown and find some Taiwan versions of their CDs... not much cheaper, but ^^;;; Good enough, I have a hard-copy)
*I would love to join Hello! Project myself, but 1) I'm not even close to half-fluent in Japanese, I'm not even fluent in Chinese, my native language! 2) I'm not very balanced, 3) My Singing isn't really that good... yet some people say it's pretty good. 4) I'm in college now, I might as well just audition for American Idol. (Although I don't even watch it)
*English H!P, it wouldn't be the same. there's a reason why American artists can't do a H!P thing. They can't really do the cutesy act like the HPK and the younger members of MM (and Sayumi, but Sayumi's becoming an adult and dropping most of the cutesy act...) But yes, I love H!P for their cutesy stuff too.
*There are personal fanclubs that some people make, but an official fanclub here would be very cool too. I would actually join that too. ^^;;;
*Actually, karaoke doesn't sound that bad... now if only I knew how to read Japanese.... And as I said before, my best friend introduced Morning Musume to me.
*Heh, yet there are fans of Morning Musume from America are in their 30s and would probably hang posters of them... By the way, do you know where I can get Hello! Project posters? I can't seem to find any at my Japantown nor my Chinatown. x_X
Ahs, I like to randomly sing Shabondama, and my other friend gets annoyed when I do that and starts putting on her own music. ^^;; I also start singing Kanashimi Twilight and Onna ni Sachi Are too. I would sing Mikan, but I haven't listened to it enough and I haven't gotten it yet... I'm actually still waiting for my package from Yes-Asia.. Ers... sorry for the long comment, but none of this is bashing too by the way, it's just saying the downside to some of your comments. Wait... when I reread my comments, it's not really bashing... -.- Also I tend to ramble and I don't even realize what I'm typing so please forgive me! ^^;;
-Air