H!P in America, and other ranting.

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When people say that H!P and Morning Musume are declining, they don't mean that the quality of their music is declining. At least, that's not the common case. It means that their selling less copies. "Golden Age" sold over a million, and now they fight to get 100k. You can't deny that.
And 35-year-old men going to H!P concerts isn't something really accepted in Japanese society. More like tolerated, just like otaku.

I never really said the quality of music is declining.
I mean that some of the H!P fans I talk to always complain about how H!P hasn't come out with something as good as [insert old song] in forever. That they like the older music better then the new stuff.

And how many copies are sold... A lot has changed since the "Golden Age" and not just the girls or the music. Right now getting the new Mikan single is as easy as signing up for free at a website and dowloading it. Why buy it when you can get it free? I try and buy as much as I can, but I know that 98% of the H!P music on my computer wasn't bought. Though I agree that even if you couldn't possibly get any singles for free online the Golden Age would still sell more. But who knows by how much?

Haha, give a girl a break! The word accepted vs. the word tolerated. xD I never meant that it was an accepted. What I meant was like what you said, it's tolerated.

Yeah, I got that, you said you like the newer songs. Mikan gives me hope. But even if you take into account the fact that you can get their music for free, the same goes for every other artist out there. The girls don't appear in commercials as much anymore, for example. It's a fact that girls groups in general aren't nearly as popular as they once were, H!P included. Time passes, trends go with it.

Also, if there's any group of people less likely to download most of their collection, it would be the elderly and the wotas/otaku. The Collection is a fanatic's life. I'm sure that if a wota isn't spending all his money in singles, instead downloading them for free, he is using it to buy photobooks and attend concerts, so in the end it all goes to UFA. If you look at it like this, it's easy to predict that H!P can aim for wotas and stay around for a long time, even if they never sell so much as to get mainstream like the Golden Age again.

I like your younger fans idea. In fact, that's a market UFA is going for since MiniMoni, and trying to maintain with all the present anime units. Most bloggers I've read just say they are aiming for otakus though...
I have to admit, if Hello! Project does come to America, things would be a lot different. I actually became a fan of Hello! Project from my best friend. Not sure how she got into it, but I became a fan. Then I made friends with a girl from my university through facebook. ^^;; It's a small world. I've also been trying to get my other friends to listen to them, but not much success. (I became a fan during the summer of 2006, so I lost a lot of important parts of their history... a 16-year-old browsing around the world of Hello! Project, now I'm an 18-year-old with a lot more knowledge than before. My birthday's during the summer, so that's why it's a two year difference. xD)

*Concerts, yes it'll be easier for fans to go to concerts for those who live in the states because they'll be doing it at closer arenas that are big. For me, those would be in San Francisco, San Jose or Oakland. A few hours of car ride, that's not as bad as a LONG plane ride to Japan.

*A store to buy their CDs. For me, in my city there's a Japantown, but their CD store doesn't have all the CDs I want. I've been looking for the Kanashimi Twilight single for a long time and they didn't have it at all. Yet they had the All Single's Complete... And way-overpriced from what you can order on Yes-Asia. A single from that store, costs 21 dollars without tax for a Limited Edition and on Yes-Asia it's 17. Plus, Yes-Asia gives free shipping. =D (Although, I do cheat and go to my Chinatown and find some Taiwan versions of their CDs... not much cheaper, but ^^;;; Good enough, I have a hard-copy)

*I would love to join Hello! Project myself, but 1) I'm not even close to half-fluent in Japanese, I'm not even fluent in Chinese, my native language! 2) I'm not very balanced, 3) My Singing isn't really that good... yet some people say it's pretty good. 4) I'm in college now, I might as well just audition for American Idol. (Although I don't even watch it)

*English H!P, it wouldn't be the same. there's a reason why American artists can't do a H!P thing. They can't really do the cutesy act like the HPK and the younger members of MM (and Sayumi, but Sayumi's becoming an adult and dropping most of the cutesy act...) But yes, I love H!P for their cutesy stuff too.

*There are personal fanclubs that some people make, but an official fanclub here would be very cool too. I would actually join that too. ^^;;;

*Actually, karaoke doesn't sound that bad... now if only I knew how to read Japanese.... And as I said before, my best friend introduced Morning Musume to me.

*Heh, yet there are fans of Morning Musume from America are in their 30s and would probably hang posters of them... By the way, do you know where I can get Hello! Project posters? I can't seem to find any at my Japantown nor my Chinatown. x_X

Ahs, I like to randomly sing Shabondama, and my other friend gets annoyed when I do that and starts putting on her own music. ^^;; I also start singing Kanashimi Twilight and Onna ni Sachi Are too. I would sing Mikan, but I haven't listened to it enough and I haven't gotten it yet... I'm actually still waiting for my package from Yes-Asia.. Ers... sorry for the long comment, but none of this is bashing too by the way, it's just saying the downside to some of your comments. Wait... when I reread my comments, it's not really bashing... -.- Also I tend to ramble and I don't even realize what I'm typing so please forgive me! ^^;;

-Air

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